Quote:Yeah the clearlogo is an additional 40px taller (one grid line) because the plot moved down one grid line. When you overlay the grid you can see how the spacing makes a lot more sense and it makes it fairly clear what my original plan was before I compromised to try to shoehorn the AH1 divider in.

LEFT: OLD version (inconsistent sizing) | RIGHT: NEW version (consistent sizing)


For example, in the *old* (left) version the top logo+infoline only occupies 3 lines (120px) whereas plot+rating is taking 4 lines (160px). There's also 40px of wasted space under the plot (orange scribble) which was left to allow for the AH1 style divider.

By contrast, in the *new* (right) you can see the sizing is more consistent. Logo+Infoline is 4 lines (160px) and ratings+plot is also 4 lines (160px). That weird disconnected 40px additional padding below the plot is gone. Now there is clear symettry between the bottom and top halves of the screen.

Quote:Yeah I think the buttons not having focus by default is what people are finding the most jarring. I'm not opposed to having them selected by default - there's just a small navigation issue I'm trying to solve because it reduces the available directions for other actions.

There's three actions that need to be available (expand plot, expand recommendations, expand gallery). Currently without the buttons focus there's four directions available (up, down, left, right) so these are mapped left=buttons; right=gallery; up=plot; down=recommendations.

The problem is that with the buttons focused by default, the available actions are reduced to two (left and right). It would make sense for right to open recommendations since they move in from the bottom right; and the gallery could switch sides to the left.

The only issue is finding a way to expand the plot since we lose the "up" action and pressing left doesn't make sense to expand the plot since it is on the right of the poster.

(2022-11-04, 21:17)SwedishHeat Wrote: When I try to update this skin, my screen just goes black. It's like it freezes my device. I'm on a Nvidia Shield. The only button that is responsive on my Shield remote, is the menu button, so I can restart the device. But everytime it's the same result, it always freezes my device. Are there troubleshooting steps?

(2022-11-04, 21:43)oo_void Wrote:

(2022-11-04, 21:17)SwedishHeat Wrote: When I try to update this skin, my screen just goes black. It's like it freezes my device. I'm on a Nvidia Shield. The only button that is responsive on my Shield remote, is the menu button, so I can restart the device. But everytime it's the same result, it always freezes my device. Are there troubleshooting steps?

That's just the way Kodi reacts when a skin is updated. See this post https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=367352&pid=3116024#pid3116024

(2022-11-04, 21:58)oo_void Wrote: Regarding ClearLogo support and jumping through hoops to support it ... It's a good idea in theory, but in practice, it's not a reliable asset to base design decisions on. Just a quick scroll through my library shows that only ~40% of items have an appropriately sized image. The rest are square, slanted, or even worse, have black lettering. A great example is the Clone Wars clearart ...



The square aspect ratio just doesn't work with the skin. Most Marvel movies and Star Wars films (picking on them since they're pretty common in most libraries), follow the same, square logo pattern so I turn that feature off. The wrapping is a nice alternative, but there are leading issues with the current implementation. It would be really nice if you could prioritize the wrapping point against the length of the second line --

Spider-Man:
A Long Way Home

vs.

Spider-Man: A Long
Way Home

-- but I think that approach is beyond what's capable in the skinning engine. Another observation about ClearLogos; it appears that the cache isn't being cleared when the asset is updated. I tried "fixing", or selecting better assets for a few items in the library, but the info screen and full-screen widgets weren't picking up the updates.

xml:
<font>

<name>font_weathertemp</name>

<filename>RobotoCondensed-Bold.ttf</filename>

<size>107</size>

<style>bold</style>

</font>

<font>

<name>font_infotitle</name>

<filename>RobotoCondensed-Bold.ttf</filename>

<style>bold</style>

<size>107</size>

</font>

(2022-11-04, 21:58)oo_void Wrote: Regarding ClearLogo support and jumping through hoops to support it ... It's a good idea in theory, but in practice, it's not a reliable asset to base design decisions on.

• 1 gridline for item padding
  
• 2 gridlines for screen edge padding (allows next offscreen item to "peek" 1 gridline).
  
• 5 gridlines each for header and footer (2 screen pad + 1 content + 2 screen pad).
  
• 8 gridlines each for infopanel and item row: (8 + 8 + 1 pad = 17 which is the screen height minus 10 for header + footer).
  

(2022-11-04, 21:58)oo_void Wrote: It would be really nice if you could prioritize the wrapping point against the length of the second line --

Spider-Man:
A Long Way Home

vs.

Spider-Man: A Long
Way Home

-- but I think that approach is beyond what's capable in the skinning engine.

(2022-11-04, 21:58)oo_void Wrote: Another observation about ClearLogos; it appears that the cache isn't being cleared when the asset is updated. I tried "fixing", or selecting better assets for a few items in the library, but the info screen and full-screen widgets weren't picking up the updates.

(2022-11-04, 23:45)oo_void Wrote: One more thing that I've noticed that would save some space and drastically improve font rendering is this ...

You should never "bold" a font that is already bold.  There's no official RobotoCondensed-Black, which should be a similar weight to what you're using but with better kerning, but this one looks usable https://github.com/Jackool/roboto-condensed-black-medium/blob/master/Roboto-CondensedBlack.ttf.

(2022-11-04, 23:13)SwedishHeat Wrote: I read a previous post that states it's cached for 24 hours, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. It's been nearly a week since I've added new artwork, I've tried manually refreshing, and some clearlogos are still 'stuck' in their old versions. When I'm in the 'Choose Art' sub-menu, the new clearlogo is displayed, but on the actual library view, it's still the old clearlogo file.

(2022-11-05, 07:06)oo_void Wrote: Not going to quote that whole response, but that copy Roboto Condensed Black definitely has good character support from my spot-checking. In my music library, I have a lot of classical which means lots of European and Cyrillic names which render perfectly at ~175kb. Worth giving it a spin considering how well you've structured the skin.

(2022-11-04, 22:21)TheFather999 Wrote: @jurialmunkey 
Loving your skin and all your revisions. I 100% agree with all your tweaks to date. Fantastic. And thanks for adding the "lovefilm" widget style Been waiting on that one :-)
My question... is a full screen weather widget coming anytime soon? I loved having it sit there, full screen, as part of my quit menu on AH1. Thanks in advance.